1 Up podcast: Gary Williams with Jack Nicklaus

In the debut episode of the 1 Up podcast, Gary Williams talks to 20-time — that's right — 20-time major winner Jack Nicklaus.

Williams and Nicklaus discuss the need to roll back the golf ball (3:00), how much golf Jack actually watches (6:05), just how many majors Jack and Tiger have or haven't won (12:48), his expectations for Tiger in 2019 (16:45). Plus, Jack shares a Barbara's-going-into-later-and-I'm-with-Bob-Hope story (26:17).

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